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		<title>Comment on Heads-up Freelance Designers: You are Grossly Underpaid In India by Ash</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ash</dc:creator>
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		<description>@ Hi Abishai, 

Disagreement is good pal. Lot of stuff comes out of it :) 

I did mention that there are lots of courses online. They are available for everyone. Yes, there&#039;s the best of the training possible. Now, more than ever. 

I totally agree with your points here. 
1. It&#039;s true we focus on $$$ and not the process, the fun in creating, and the stunning results graphic design results in. 
2. Don&#039;t get started on the low bids, low pricing, and the super-driven mind frame we have on being &quot;affordable&quot;, &quot;cheap&quot;, and &quot;economical&quot; which usually results in lack of motivation to work or burnout or both, right? 
3. I have to ask you regarding the web designer who dumped your project midway, are you sure you paid him well ( this is based on another point you made about &quot;We get what we pay for?&quot;. 
4. You hit the nail with this one. Absolutely right. It takes a lot to keep your skills, years of experience, and all that feeling of &quot;Oh Damn! I am good&quot; aside and really LISTEN to the client. 
5. Agreed again. No training ( not much), no spending time to get the projects right, no attention to detail, no adherence to industry standards. 

About hiring folks for creative work. There&#039;s always a need, isn&#039;t there? 
Digital publishing, as I mentioned is huge. Now, with the mobile interface being more common what with the iPhones, Blackberries, iPad, and many other mobile devices --- the need to publish information has not only increased but also spread wide ( as in channels for consumption of content). 

Yeah, the good ones always earn a premium :) 

Please keep visiting the blog. Loved your comment :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Hi Abishai, </p>
<p>Disagreement is good pal. Lot of stuff comes out of it <img src='http://rebelpreneur.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>I did mention that there are lots of courses online. They are available for everyone. Yes, there&#8217;s the best of the training possible. Now, more than ever. </p>
<p>I totally agree with your points here.<br />
1. It&#8217;s true we focus on $$$ and not the process, the fun in creating, and the stunning results graphic design results in.<br />
2. Don&#8217;t get started on the low bids, low pricing, and the super-driven mind frame we have on being &#8220;affordable&#8221;, &#8220;cheap&#8221;, and &#8220;economical&#8221; which usually results in lack of motivation to work or burnout or both, right?<br />
3. I have to ask you regarding the web designer who dumped your project midway, are you sure you paid him well ( this is based on another point you made about &#8220;We get what we pay for?&#8221;.<br />
4. You hit the nail with this one. Absolutely right. It takes a lot to keep your skills, years of experience, and all that feeling of &#8220;Oh Damn! I am good&#8221; aside and really LISTEN to the client.<br />
5. Agreed again. No training ( not much), no spending time to get the projects right, no attention to detail, no adherence to industry standards. </p>
<p>About hiring folks for creative work. There&#8217;s always a need, isn&#8217;t there?<br />
Digital publishing, as I mentioned is huge. Now, with the mobile interface being more common what with the iPhones, Blackberries, iPad, and many other mobile devices &#8212; the need to publish information has not only increased but also spread wide ( as in channels for consumption of content). </p>
<p>Yeah, the good ones always earn a premium <img src='http://rebelpreneur.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>Please keep visiting the blog. Loved your comment <img src='http://rebelpreneur.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Heads-up Freelance Designers: You are Grossly Underpaid In India by Abishai Joseph</title>
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		<dc:creator>Abishai Joseph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Dec 2011 15:25:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Ashwin,
I disagree with a lot of what you have written here.

To start out with, a lot of training courses are online and the good ones are expensive. If your in Begumpet or Honolulu doesn&#039;t matter, you can still have/ access the best of training. Through my own experience, and having learnt the hard way why we Indians get paid in this Industry.

1) One we focus on the result (read $) not the process( very high quality work): 
2) We always start off with low prices/ rates when bidding, if we don&#039;t be sure another sub-continent person would bid lower
3) Striving for perfection versus completion. Always in a hurry to get the job done, rather than improving what we are doing. I had this web designer who once just gave up half way on the website, because a German client wanted better work, more iterations
4)Very rare to find somebody who listens to how the client wants it to be designed, we always want to push what we know best.
5) We spend very less time on investing in proper education, projects, industry standards etc.

Last but not the least we have to ask ourselves, if the amount you paid for a job was the same across the world? would the world still want to hire folks for creative work?

There are always exceptions, and like you mention in your article, these are the creme and earn a premium.

Keep up the good work

-Abishai</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Ashwin,<br />
I disagree with a lot of what you have written here.</p>
<p>To start out with, a lot of training courses are online and the good ones are expensive. If your in Begumpet or Honolulu doesn&#8217;t matter, you can still have/ access the best of training. Through my own experience, and having learnt the hard way why we Indians get paid in this Industry.</p>
<p>1) One we focus on the result (read $) not the process( very high quality work):<br />
2) We always start off with low prices/ rates when bidding, if we don&#8217;t be sure another sub-continent person would bid lower<br />
3) Striving for perfection versus completion. Always in a hurry to get the job done, rather than improving what we are doing. I had this web designer who once just gave up half way on the website, because a German client wanted better work, more iterations<br />
4)Very rare to find somebody who listens to how the client wants it to be designed, we always want to push what we know best.<br />
5) We spend very less time on investing in proper education, projects, industry standards etc.</p>
<p>Last but not the least we have to ask ourselves, if the amount you paid for a job was the same across the world? would the world still want to hire folks for creative work?</p>
<p>There are always exceptions, and like you mention in your article, these are the creme and earn a premium.</p>
<p>Keep up the good work</p>
<p>-Abishai</p>
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